Blue Bonnet

21 Responses to “A Regency Stovepipe Bonnet Frame”

1. ART13autotune on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   thank you
   keep up …
   thank you
   keep up the good work

   ignore the yahoos

   yours truly

2. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   I hand-stitched it …
   I hand-stitched it just looping around it in the seams.

3. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   I also suggest that …
   I also suggest that in a discussion, if you want to avoid people being rude to you, then perhaps you bite back your own rudeness. This isn’t a battle of last words.

   And lastly, because I’m getting tired of this lame discourse, I have more important things to do than to defend my work against someone I don’t know…

   It’s too bad you’re such a smug snot. I think I would probably like you very much and get along with you grandly otherwise.

4. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   I was wondering how …
   I was wondering how long it would take you to list your credentials.

   Good for you. You do us all a service by preserving lovely historic garments. I live to see images of those lovely items.

   However, you might want to look into the disinction between being critical and being patronizing. Especially over a subject of very broad interpretation. Maybe others would ‘think highly’ of your opinion too if you delivered it in a less condescending manner. Just a suggestion, of course.

5. aramintagamba on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   Actually, I do …
   Actually, I do think very highly of my opinion in this subject…my first and second degrees are in textile conservation and for the bulk of my professional life I have conserved restored and recreated historical garments for collections around the world. I have changed course for my PhD to work on music for historical dance, and I am just as fanatical about accuracy in that too. I am really sorry that criticism upsets you so.

6. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   Oh, I’m rude? LOL.. …
   Oh, I’m rude? LOL.. that’s a laugh. “well, enjoy your fantasies…” And what’s that? Fluffy kindness? Please. You think very highly of your own opinion obviously. You’ve ’studied’ 0.00000000098% of every hand-created garment ever made during a twenty-year period, and you think yourself qualified to knock down the hard work of others? Get over yourself. Really. Leave Timestep out of this. Her opinion only serves as a means to propagate your own.

7. aramintagamba on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   I see, you are just …
   I see, you are just rude on principle…it wasn’t specially for Timestep’s benefit.

8. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   Oh, get off your …
   Oh, get off your high horse.

9. aramintagamba on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

   well, enjoy your …
   well, enjoy your fantasies… for some of us, the study of aspects of the past include accuracy, and if suggesting it is arrogant, then call me arrogant.

10. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    I’m not going to ‘ …
    I’m not going to ‘acknowledge’ something I don’t believe, my dear.

    There is no such thing as ‘authentic’ when there was no such thing as mass-produced clothing and accessories. Everything that was HAND made during that time was ‘generic’ to meet fashion standards of the period, and there were MANY variations. I see a lot of people poo-pooing patterns by various people for lack of ‘authenticity’ and frankly, that’s arrogant claptrappery to insist otherwise.

11. aramintagamba on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    So why didn’t you …
    So why didn’t you just accept Timestep’s compliment on your work and acknowledge that your design isn’t actually to an authentic pattern, but a generic, which is what Timestep implied

12. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    However it is …
    However it is inspired by fashion plate images and a couple of extant bonnets at the MFA Boston… it’s not exact, but it’s close enough.

13. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    I made a bonnet …
    I made a bonnet pattern that can easily be made by people who are not milliners or professional costumers; a bonnet that will look appropriate with their Sense & Sensibility Pattern gown and spencer, and that will satisfy their desire to look the part. The bonnet looks fabulous. Even better as the high-angle version, it’s showy and splendid. And as long as *they’re* happy, then so am I.

14. aramintagamba on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    So in actuality, …
    So in actuality, your pattern is not a regency bonnet but a costume creation along the lines of…

15. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    Frankly ladies, as …
    Frankly ladies, as much as I worked to create a pattern based on images, I also created a pattern that was easily workable in Buckram. I disposed of flares at the top of the crown, or curlson the brim–and it is a pattern that looks very regency; whether or not it meets the exacting standards of people who demand accuracy down to the button. The truth is, people made their own clothes, and so in my mind, there is no exact standard, simply a ‘look’. I won’t quibble over the little stuff.

16. timestep24 on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    when the more …
    when the more militaristic shapes dominate, then towards then end of the 18 teens, a more homogenous shape with brim and crown more contiguous. The high, slightly conical shape only appears post 1825 when the style for plaited looks on top of the head becomes more popular, but then the crown is more vertical to the head.

17. timestep24 on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    Well, Paris …
    Well, Paris certainly had taller crowns than London, but the shape is usually squarer, and the brim is more ’shell shaped’.. that is, if we are actually talking about the Regency rather than a generic ‘late Hanovarian’, but if one looks at Malesherbes or Alésia, the figures are so stylistically drawn that I don’t believe on can use them as gospel. London-wise, the smaller,neater shape typifies the earlier years of the period, becoming a shorthand for dowdy c. 1815, (cont

18. aramintagamba on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    Actually, timestep …
    Actually, timestep is quite right… Yes, there is variety but the higher crown styles are later in the period, and by the time it gets into the sort of height you are working with, the Regency is well and truly over. If you are taking the period 1811 to 22, bobbet-wise things tend to get wide before they go up, and the taller hats tend to be either Sheiko pattern, or with full brims

    Araminta

19. HerOdyssey on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    Nonsense. The …
    Nonsense. The period fashion plates show a wide range of crown heights; some ridiculously large, others more proportionate. I think there was as much variation to their bonnets and styles as there are creative people.

20. timestep24 on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    Nicely done, but …
    Nicely done, but the crown is a little high for Regency.. much more 18 25-30.. but still nicely done!

21. Hatattitude on August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

    I love your work is …
    I love your work is there any way you can make a more detail video of hat making?

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