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August 31st, 2009 at 5:00 am
Yes there are leash laws but allso animal cruelty laws.
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August 31st, 2009 at 5:47 am
If he can prove that your cat did it, yes you can be held responsible. But I’d call the authorities about the threat.
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August 31st, 2009 at 6:30 am
Yes, you can be held responsible for it.
Ethically, you should pay him for the damage. Also ethically, he should not threatean to poison your cat, as your cat is a living being, and your responsibility and property. Call the police or bobbies, and get them to help mediate the conflict. Do not let that man intimidate you. But neither should you avoid the responsibility for what your cat may have done.
You may have to go to court on this problem. Good luck.
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August 31st, 2009 at 7:19 am
He cannot poison your cat, that IS an offence!
Was it definitely your cat that did the damage? On every panel?
I’d offer some sort of good will gesture, say £50 maybe, but surely he doesn’t need to re-spray the whole car?
Check with an insurance company or the police maybe?
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August 31st, 2009 at 8:09 am
If he’s threatening to posion your cat, call the police, they may be of some help anyway as unless he saw *your* cat do it, he doesn’t have a leg to stand on and the arguement is, if he saw what your cat was doing why didn’t he stop them..also I’m not sure a cat’s claws are strong enough to actually damage the paint on a car, he may have had an accident and wants you to food the bill, call the police and see what they say.
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August 31st, 2009 at 8:21 am
How can he prove it was your cat? Has he got evidence.
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August 31st, 2009 at 8:43 am
In the USA and in the state of Florida, we have leash laws, so yes, I could be held responsible if he could prove it was my cat.
Video would be a good way to do that.
Keep your darned cat inside or have it declawed …you inconsiderate neighbor.
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August 31st, 2009 at 9:21 am
You are responsible – however, If he threatened to poison your cat – I would call the police and make a report about the bonnet and the threat. Get it on paper and then make him prove it was your cat. That is one ugly neighbor. I’d fight him as much as possible unless you know it was your cat. If so, pay but still file a report. Let your insurance deal with it or at least talk to them.
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August 31st, 2009 at 9:48 am
dial 999, this is demading money with menaces… very serious…
and cats arent covered or governed by any laws, (which sees them as vermin, unlike dogs)
tell johnny to take a hike…
and dont forget to report his sorry escuse for an existence… it wil protect you, and your cats.
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August 31st, 2009 at 10:08 am
No you don’t have to pay……….can he prove it anyway ?? does he have evidence ?
Has he threatened the cat ? although there is little you can do unless the worst happens.
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August 31st, 2009 at 10:26 am
First off he can get in deep trouble for poisoning your cat, just be sure that you can verify that he threatened to do so if it should happen. BUT, you are responsible for his car damage. It’s your cat and if not for your cat, his car would not have been damaged. The only recourse is to get the repair price he is asking for reduced, by getting an estimate of your own. However he is allowed to have his car returned to it’s original condition before your cat scratched it.
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August 31st, 2009 at 10:39 am
he’s ‘avin a "giraffe" mate — £1600 for a scratch??!!??!! Buy him some of that T-cut stuff and keep your cat indoors…. Plus how can he prove something like that anyway?? He sounds like he’s off his rocker!!!!
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August 31st, 2009 at 11:28 am
short answer is YES.
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August 31st, 2009 at 11:34 am
u can not be held responsable because it wasnt u and if he poisons your cat he will be giving you the money
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August 31st, 2009 at 11:55 am
no its the cats fault, thump your neighbour
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August 31st, 2009 at 12:05 pm
No, I don’t think he has a claim against you. Cats unlike dogs are free roaming and cannot be controlled like dogs.
On the other hand he would probably be is serous trouble with the RCPCA and police if he intentionally poisoned your cat.
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August 31st, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Is your cat insured? If so, call the insurance company for advice. But how does he know it’s your cat? Is he just saying it’s your cat because he knows you and he knows you have a cat – could be ANY cat, surely! Does he have it on CCTV?! You could try ringing the RSPCA but it is usually impossible to get through.
As for poisoning your cat, if he really does, I dread to think what you’re going to do to his car!
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August 31st, 2009 at 1:15 pm
in a way yes, out of goodwill if nothing else, especially if it was only gonna be a couple of quid for some touch up paint, but if he’s being threatening towards you, I’d say/do nothing but keep a record as evidence, then if needs be, go to the police/landlord.
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August 31st, 2009 at 1:47 pm
a dog owner can be held liable not a cat owner
cats are considered feral, beyond control
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knows someone who knows this sort of thing
August 31st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
He needs to have some concrete evidence that it was your cat that did the damage. I would report the threat he made though, animal cruelty is against the law.
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August 31st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
It doesn’t cost £1,600 to respray a bonnet, It cost me just over £300 to respray a bonnet, front arches and bumper, he’s over-estimating the cost.
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I’ve had my car resprayed many times.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Certainly you can’t have the ONLY cat in the neighborhood! I’d report him for the threat and keep the cat in the house.
In the US our comprehensive car insurance would cover the claim except for the deductible!.
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August 31st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
well, you are in the wrong for allowing your cat to scratch his car, and he is in the wrong for threating to poison your cat. just pay him the money and keep your cat inside and everyone will be happy.
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August 31st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
don’t offer to pay anything as this can be seen as an admission of guilt and call the police over his threats to kill your cat.
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August 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
no you cant be held responsable as cats are wild not tame if it was a dog yes you could tell your neighbour to take you to the small claims court this should stop him in his tracks you could also report him to the rspca hope this helps
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August 31st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
The only way he could make you pay is if he has proof that it was your cat who scatched the hood of his car. The amount he’s asking is patheticly too high. If you think it was your cat, then offer a resonable amount. On the other part, him threatning to poison your cat, what a sicko. I would call the police and tell them! That’s way out of line. No reason to threaten your animal. As far as I know, there is no leash law for cats either! Good luck with what you decide to do.
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August 31st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
unfortunatley you can be held responsible.
a neighbour had this same problem. he refused to pay for the scratch and while his cat was left unharmed the wounded party took a golf club to my neighbours front windscreen and is now serving 3 months in prison for vandalism!!
Report the threat to your pet immediatley!!
He has no right to threaten like that. if he’s that adamant about it let him take it to small claims. besides he doesn’t need the whole car re-sprayed just the bonnet. price a re-spray job your self for a bonnet only. if its reasonable volunteer that amount. otherwise you could let the court decide.
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August 31st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
You cannot be held responsible for what your cat does. You cat may very well be thought of by you as a domesticated animal, but it is not a stock animal and it is not a dog. The house or demestic cat is not domesticated and lives the life of any other cat in nature.
My best advice to you is to go to the police and lodge a complaint against your neighbour.
If your cat is till young and adgile, there is little chance of him or anyone else catching your cat. The house cat can run at speeds of over 30 mph if it has to and it can climb a tree and be out of sight in seconds.
Cat = Diana the Huntress.
In Ancient Egypt any one harming a cat would be thrown naked to the crocodiles.
Pity we do not have that rule today.
Ra! Sun God of Egypt shine down upon you and all in your house, this day and for ever more.
My neighbour a British Druidess has already put a black curse upon your neighbour. Any more nonsense from him and he will be cast down into hell, there to vomit black worms for ten billion years.
How day he or any else threaten the life of a cat.
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August 31st, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Think about moving….my cars covered in cat scratch marks the garage I bought it from last year must have hidden them with coloured polish or a wax crayon …..no way I can prove it but in your case its what cats do…..I just touch in the marks & it lasts about 5 washes…..buy your neighbour some wax kids crayons so long as its nearish the original colour but if they make threats dont respond try & get evidence, record them & take it to the authorities…..Good luck
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August 31st, 2009 at 6:13 pm
you are responsible for your cat. Why would it be fair for him to pay, it’s not his cat. What if he had a dog that bit you. Would it be OK for him to not have to pay? Just pay what you owe, and keep your cat away from him
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August 31st, 2009 at 6:54 pm
You can be held responsibly legally, if he can prove your cat scratched the hood. However, if your cat is responsible, 1600 pounds is a lot to just sand and re-paint one part. (I know that because I had to have parts of my car re-painted after hail damage.)
If your cat is responsible, you need to pay, but get an estimate from two or more repair shops you can both agree on. Do not go with just a figure the owner tells you.
In the U.S. at least, leash laws do apply to cats as well as dogs, so you need to keep your cat inside. I’m not sure about Britain, if that’s where you’re living.
But as you can see, too many bad things can happen to your cat outside, including him being harmed by bad people like your neighbor. You want your cat to not be hurt, so please keep him inside! He will still be very happy living that way. You especially cannot let a de-clawed cat outside.
I would report your neighbor’s threat to police, as anti-cruelty laws also exist, but if something bad happened to your cat, it might be hard to prove your neighbor was responsible. Not to mention the fact that it would be too late for your cat.
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Work with several animal rescue groups
August 31st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Seems like a lot for a paint job. In the US, you can get your whole car painted at a good, reputable shop for a LOT less, unless he has some crazy custom paint job. If your cat did do the damage, you are liable. But I would want to see this guy’s estimate for damages before paying anything- he could be padding the bill to get you to pay for extra stuff he wants done to his car.
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August 31st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
what a tosser he must be. Tell him to eff off, and report him to the police and R.S.P.C.A.
If he carries on being a prat, pour acid on his car………. then he’ll have summat to moan about
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August 31st, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I would only pay if he can prove that it was your cat, and only yours that did the damage! They are so many cats in my area it would be hard to say it was one cat!
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August 31st, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Has he got proof it was your cat? Like a video of it? If not, how can he prove it was? If it goes to court, judges are not of this planet, though. But threatening to poison someones cat is illegal, so if it was me I would prosecute him for that. That would shut him up about the car. What makes people think they have the right to hurt/kill a living thing because of accidental damage to an inanimate object?! DON’T give him money-that’s called threatening bribery, even if he did see your cat.It’s his car, it’s a cat, he’s responsible.
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August 31st, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Assuming that you are in the UK, there is absolutely nothing your neighbour can legally do, even if there were conclusive proof that your cat damaged his car. Since cats are excluded from the definitions of "livestock" and "cattle" under the Animals Act 1971, they cannot be held guilty of trespass under civil law and, therefore, their owners or keepers cannot be liable for any damage done.
As for threatening to poison your cat, then your neighbour is danger of committing an offence himself. Under the Protection of Animals Act 1911, any person who deliberately and intentionally administers any poison to an animal is guilty of an offence. Equally, a person commits an offence if he (or she) knowingly puts poison down in any building or place without taking reasonable precautions to avoid harming cats and kittens in the area.
If your neighbour is menacing you for the money, then inform him that you intend reporting the matter to the police and the RSPCA. Hopefully a word of caution from the police might make him understand that threatening to poison local pets is not a wise idea.
Here in Cyprus, there’s lots of stray cats who often sleep on parked cars (mine included) and I’ve never known any of them to damage paintwork. Your neighbour sounds like a bully who is trying to intimidate you into paying for something which you are not responsible for. If there are other cat owners in your neighbourhood, it might be worthwhile checking if he’s tried this little scam on them as well. If he has, then the police and RSPCA will definitely give this case higher priority.
Good luck
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Legislation info taken from "Cats & The Law". See the website for further details.
http://www.yorkcats.org.uk/catlaw.htm
August 31st, 2009 at 11:03 pm
you are partly responsible for the cats actions but i think you should report him for threatening to posion the cat. try to negoiate, and get a compromise
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August 31st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Oh! What a lot of good(ie) people there are out there desperate to pass on their profound opinions on this simple matter. The answer is quite simply NO. As for your neighbour’s threats, there are words I could use but the goodies might object.
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